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*Surfs through "Andrew Dickman" tag and sees you stating he's immature* Is he really that immature?! I mean, I got blocked by him for cracking some bad jokes about 5 years ago, but THAT immature... It actually makes me grateful I got blocked by him.

Unfortunately, yes. When it comes to taking critique and overall contact with fans he acts more like a grade-schooler than a grown-up professional cartoonist.

If you took time to read the whole post, you know already that once there was more than one (mine) comment pointing out basic anatomy flaw in his work Dickman did everything BUT acknowledge that he drew a rubber spine for the character.
Instead, he:

  • used a whole bunch of ad hominem arguments, including various insults and suggesting that we don’t have life
  • told us to chill out and to stop attacking him, when he was the offensive one. “I can take crits, but not attacks” my ass.
  • insisted that there’s nothing wrong with the pose and that he is capable of doing it (which is, let me remind you, full 90 degrees torso twist)
  • argued that DC comics does that all the time (from when does it make it okay?)
  • argued that he drew it for his girlfriend, so we shouldn’t “hate”, because art gifts apparently should be critique free, even though they’re published for everyone to see on a popular art site
  • accused us of harassing his girlfriend on dA and Twitter, though it was actually an independent case of some troll/art thief

I noticed some time earlier that the guy wasn’t generally nice about taking anything that wasn’t praise in his dA comments, which I’m surprised and disappointed by to this day.

To his credit, he actually wanted to make peace with me on Twitter by the time the argument was closing and the troll’s case was cleared up, but he never cared to unblock me.
So I never cared to answer, figuring Dickman-free life is what I need more.

"The reactions mr. Dickman showcased suit the maturity of a 12-year old child who’s just learning how to deal with negative feedback for their doodling on the Internet, not an adult professional cartoonist. Given his actual age, skill and immense popularity, he should be experienced in dealing with praise, critique (both deserved and not) and trolling alike." I love you 8C

I accept your love and give you some of mine <3


Anyway, that’s exactly what I thought once it all started. Dickman’s quitraging only confirmed how immature he is :-/
I literally can not comprehend how such talented and hardworking artist can act exactly like a tween who got pissed off that someone didn’t like their precious animu fanart.

puresuke:

coryruinseverything:

asknoen:

coryruinseverything:

asknoen:

So I’ve been watching Andrew Dickman for some time on Deviantart, and I really love his megaman art. Sometimes he draws ridiculously over breast’d and thigh’d lady furries- which whatever people can draw what they want. I had to say no more when he recently uploaded this. 

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just- NO. NONONONO. Dickman JUST SAY NO TO BOOBS AND BUTT. Especially after seeing another deviant commenting on the terrible anatomy, I felt the urge to do the same. 

It’s amazing how nasty popular artists get when you point out spine breaking poses.

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as you can see he decided to block me, so I used an alternate account to reply because he said “we’re done” because ONE of my friends came in with a very fair request.

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I couldn’t get all of it, I felt that he was going to cover up his tracks and hide the entire conversation, so I had to cap quickly. He IS the second best known artist on Deviantart- he can’t have bad publicity! 

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I certainly wasn’t overly nice about my initial statement, but I was called an intolerant idiot and a whiny bitch. For pointing out the rubber spine! This is a professional artist acting like an offended thirteen year old.  His art wasn’t worshiped, so he lashed out. 

I suspect he realized he was acting like a tool, and as such, hid the entire conversation. Which you can find it here: http://andrewdickman.deviantart.com/art/Shake-That-Booty-306659296

Well MR. Dickman, I’m sorry to inform you, but this is the internet. And trolls love them some butthurt. 

Reblog if you support working spines and seeing popular assholes being humiliated. 

I find this HILARIOUS you say he’s being a tool. Says the person with alternate deviant art accounts.

Yes. I saw the picture too. And yes I noticed the pose was exaggerated. But wanna know what I did before I passed judgment on a drawing that was a “GIFT” to the artist’s girlfriend? I stopped and thought about the drawing in question.

1. At first glance the pose is impossible because it’s a boobs and butt pose, but then I took into account the action being portrayed. There was haste and the character was running. Both actions can contort extreme actions for a fraction of a second the character can be exaggerated beyond it’s limitations. It can’t hold the pose longer than a second, but at one point it might be able to show it. I’ll say it again. At ONE POINT.

2. The character is INTENTIONALLY posing. It looks like the character’s running and posing for a quick snap shot. Where as the “DC Comic Artist” comparison you’ve so blindly brought up didn’t realize what you were comparing it to. The difference between this picture and the DC Comic Poses are in the comics it’s an improper portrayal of action. It’s only purpose is to intentionally sexualized the characters without thinking of what action SHOULD be portrayed. Meaning there’s no REAL thought put into it and it’s distracting from it’s original intent. That’s the wrong way. The RIGHT way however is what Andrew did it was because it was intentionally sexy and to show an exaggerated pose at the most exaggerated point. Is it 100% Correct? Probably not. But then who is 100% correct? I worked on Skullgirls, and I work with a lot of amazing artists who studied anatomy and we’re not perfect at it. But we know enough of what can be possible for exaggerated characters. Especially if you understand Animation and how important exaggeration plays a huge part in it.

3. It’s a gift for his girlfriend. Nothing more. A fun gesture to show affection to a loved one of a character who just so happens to be fun to draw.

So I LOVE how you feel that devoting all this time to “denounce” someone who just annoyed you with drawing a gift for someone. Yeah. True. The world is full of assholes. But is there a written law that we should take their “opinion” into consideration when they act like arrogant know it all assholes to get their point across? If there is then I guess we’re going to jail! OH NO! SOMEONE’S NOT HAPPY WITH A DRAWING SOMEONE DID ON THE INTERNET! HEAVEN FORBID!

OH WOE AND HORROR!

Get off your high horse. Move on because you look like a friggin’ ponce. If the drawing served it’s purpose then it’s a 100% successful piece of art.

Oh and one more thing. I find it hilarious not once was the fact she was a bear, covered in fur, and a fluffy tail was brought up once. If you’re gonna go outta your way to pick apart every detail like a messy 12 year old you may as well pick apart everything as a whole like how Bears are bigger than that, or have more pronounced muzzles, or don’t wear clothes. Just saying =P

MMMMTSH ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST! 

I didn’t bring up the furry aspect because people have the right to draw what they want. Be it giant boobs a big tail giant ass or whatnot. But Dickman normally respects the laws of anatomy- so I pointed it out. And no, no one can move their spine like that especially when they’re running. And he reacted like a ten year old. 

B) yes keep feeding the trolls. We’re hungry.

Oh I miss read. Well shame on me.

Also. Learn animation or structure for that matter. I think there’s someone else who needs it more before passing judgment.

Does that feed your fatasses enough? I hope so because I can do this all day while working. I don’t mind, s’quite fun to watch people drown when they think they make a difference, it’s like watching a puppy pissing in its face :3c

cory i love you but that pose looks fucking painful as hell pls justify it for me because i dont understand how you can even defend it other than “andrew is my friend and he drew it for his girlfriend” because fucking ouch look at that

As a participant of the initial discussion and the person who first pointed out Escher anatomy in this drawing (which was ignored, the drama begun when asknoen stood out with the same statement as I did), I’ll throw my five cents in. And because there’s so much to say, I’d count it:

  1. For the record, I am a fan of mr. (that “mrs.” in my comment was a typo *eyeroll*) Dickman’s work, especially title cards and supplementary art he makes for Channel Awesome. He’s very talented, I love the way he portrays the reviewers and that’s obviously why he was on my devwatch list.
  2. The pose in this picture certainly counts as an Escher Girl material, as it’s classic boobs and butt pose. Though the author claimed to be capable of doing it himself, I call bullshit in this one as long as I don’t see a real life equivalent of exactly what we see here on a photograph. Similar poses are possible for more flexible people to do, but only for a split second and with risk of getting a major backache. Again, Escher Girls have some user submissions with proper photos and notes about when things get from uncomfortable to painful.
  3. “It’s a gift, so you shouldn’t critique it at all!” is not an argument. Displaying an image on deviantArt with comments enabled means that you’re open for all feedback from everyone. Your girlfriend liked it? So do I! It’s cute! That doesn’t mean I can not see one wrong thing with it.
  4. “DC Comics is guilty of this pose” is even worse argument than one above. We’re talking about your art here, mr. Dickman. It only asks for age old question: if DC or Marvel made their artists jump off a cliff would you do that? Keep in mind that you brought up DC to this debate in the first place.
  5. We were neither bitching nor trolling. Just pointing out one thing that was wrong with the image. Turning it into flamewar was never a purpose. Note that nobody in those comments said “your art sucks” in any way nor the content (a furry, controversial issue to some) was ever discussed. Only a mistake in anatomy that Dickman can not admit he made.
  6. Andrew Dickman never acknowledged that Kimi’s spine is an anatomical mistake. He immediately focused on attacking us, commenters by using words such as ‘butthurt’, ‘whiny bitch’ or ‘intolerant idiot’, suggesting that we have no life and by putting words we never used into our mouths.
  7. He could end the discussion right away by replying “Well, this pose is indeed exaggerated, but I focused on having fun with this drawing and giving something cute to my girlfriend. Proper anatomy clearly wasn’t a priority here”. Apparently it was was harder to write for him than ranting how despicable we are for expressing our opinion. I gathered that he meant what I just phrased, but the wording he used was very offensive towards us.
  8. On his Twitter Dickman claims that he ‘can take criticism’… yet from the very beginning he never ever tried to take it. Attacking a critic for speaking up is pretty much the exact opposite of taking criticism.
  9. Currently the comments on dA page for it are disabled and artist’s comment claims:

critiques and comments are not allowed as there was some big nutcase of an argument over the anatomy. Whether it’s bad or good, whatever, I drew it for my girlfriend, she enjoyed it, she loves it, and 2 or 3 out of several people enjoyed it too.

I don’t draw things for fun to be criticized by the damned entitled soccer moms of the ‘art world’. You’re not doing me a favor if you criticize me on things I didn’t ask your opinion about. that’s why there is a request critiques checkmark here.

I can take crits, but not attacks.

Words can not describe how very disappointed I am by his attitude.

The reactions mr. Dickman showcased suit the maturity of a 12-year old child who’s just learning how to deal with negative feedback for their doodling on the Internet, not an adult professional cartoonist. Given his actual age, skill and immense popularity, he should be experienced in dealing with praise, critique (both deserved and not) and trolling alike.

I am aware that the case wasn’t worth such fuss, but the artist encouraged the discussion to go on by being rude and seeking excuses.